ringlol (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

@jhain92 Weight is not the problem for Audi, it's more that it has to spread the power of 4wheels = less power to the ground.

deutchcarlove (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Even the the S4 has a couple more HP than the M3, the M3 is still a much lighter car than the S4...keep that in mind as well.

jhain92 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Plus, my bet is that a few years down the road, aftermarket tuning and performance parts will allow it to smoke the m3 in a straight line and put in on par in the twisties.

jhain92 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

I think it comes down to what you want. If you want to have space for people in the back and have a more comfortable ride the Audis the way to go. If you want to bring it to the track the m3 is the way to go. I personally think unless you are a track nut then the m3 doesn't make sense to own as a daily driver (unless you think the extra performance and lady-killing abilities of the M3 are worth spending a lot more on insurance, gas and maintenance).

jhain92 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

@pgr0104 MTM ecu tune and catback give you 430 hp and 360 tq. APR stage 2+ which includes an ecu tune, upgraded s/c pulley, intake and exhaust gets you 390 hp and 377 tq. Although I am not one hundred percent whether MTM is measuring at the wheels I think they are. If they are measuring from the wheels and the power curves are smooth then in a high rpm race like this then MTM should actually be faster than APR.

leedleleedle73 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

My friend has an S4 and I raced him in a loaner 335i when my 328i was being serviced, and from 0-60 he smoked me. My friend raced someone last night with a 335i w/ a PROcede chip and an intake- and the 335i won.

leedleleedle73 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

It's not all about drag racing and top end speeds. I've never seen a track that involves just straight away racing, at least professionally. Take these two cars to a real track with turning involved and the BMW would come out on top. But you can't compare an S4 to an M3, they are two very different cars- maybe a 335i vs S4.

pgr0104 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

This has to be done again with an APR tuned S4.. MTM doesn't produce any legitimate power increases over stock.

ukpunk1 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Both are good German automobiles, but if I had the choice to choose between them, then the Audi comes first.

kevinmsft (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Does that S4 have stock exhaust? It sounds pretty good from 0:10... I don't remember it sounds so good at test drives but maybe I didn't push hard enough. And God that M3 coupe is a beautiful car!